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以下是引用alainfang在2008-7-19 9:24:17的发言：

我来给一个4分半的.但是我这个应该是明显的集邮品.

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后面还是写的满满的.所以是否写字并不能说明是否是集邮品

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请教方兄，此件的ＫＤＴ　ＦＩＬＤ是德国军邮戳吗？记得看过一些销此戳的封和片都无需贴资费而直接寄出的。此片加贴了大清邮票，因此可以判断为集邮品，这样说法正确吗？

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http://www.p1878.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=43&Id=6103　　此贴除去挂号邮资，也属于５分邮资。似乎１９０７年以前的邮资所贴不是非常规范，有贴过１Ｃ的，１Ｃ半的和５Ｃ的。

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以下是引用alainfang在2008-7-19 20:57:29的发言：

这现在我也不确信大清邮票一定没有用.根据下面的文献好像中国邮局和德国军邮局之间也有互换邮件.我觉得有两种可能
1)德国军人到中国邮局去销了戳,然后交给德国军邮局寄出.(KDT FILD是德国军邮戳)
2)寄信人交中国邮政,销天津戳,然后中国邮政转交德国军邮局.

文献内容如下(摘自"The stamps and cancels of the german colonies and the german post offices abroad German post in China",德文原版的书名是"Die Postwertzeichen und Entwertungen der deutschen postanstlten in den Schutzgebieten und im Ausland")

Fieldpost 1900-1901
According to the regulations, mail originating from army units was to be forwarded exclusively through the fieldpost. The dispatch of mail through the German post or the postal agencies of foreign countries was forbidden for security reasons. In East Asia during the Boxer rebellion, however, there were no such restrictions. The members of the army and navy units there had the following means available for the forwarding of their private mail:
1)all German and foreign civilian mail establishments;
2)the chinese offices for the forwarding of mail to nearest German or foreign post office;
3)the German postal steamers and foreign postal ships in harbours;
4)the German naval post offices;
5) the German fieldpost.

Of these, the naval postal offices, with their privieges, were available only to the crew members of the ships; but this stipulation was not strictly adhered to during the campaign. The free postage and the reduced postage for the German fieldpost applied only to some types of mail, as was the case for the naval post offices. Other mail, not falling into these categories, had to be franked at the regular rates.
Members of German military units could send mail through the fieldpost offices of other foreign powers and vice versa. In such cases, however, no reduction in rates could be claimedd, so that full franking was required. Only the Austrian military contigent is said to have enjoyed the postage-free privileges of the German fieldpost.
In addition, mail of German and foreign civilans was forwared by the fieldpost offices as long as such mail was franked at the normal postage rates.

On 13 July 1900 The Reich Post Office made the following announcement:
"For the mail traffic of the mobile troops of the army and navy dispatched to East Asia, the changes below are effective as the day of embarkation at the home-base harbour. Private matters of the members of these military units will be forwared as fieldpost articles as follows:
* Ordinary letters up to and including 250 grams, and ordinary postcards.
* The forwarding of letters up to and including 50 grams, and postcards, will be postage-free.
* For letters weighing more than 50 grams, a rate of 20 pfennig will be chared, as long as they can be forwared with the fieldpost in East Asia.
* No changes will be made concerning the forwarding of mail for military personnel on board German warships through the navy postal administration in Berlin, or in the ordinary regulations pertaining thereto."

谢谢方兄指点，非常好的资料。