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作者: 假师爷    时间: 2015-4-16 08:06     标题: STAMPS TO WATCH OUT FOR - 打假帖

This article was published in The China Clipper March 2015 Whole Number 453 Volume 79 Number 3

H. James Maxwell

It goes without saying that since eBay chose to disband all of its fraud prevention programs the number of forgeries and bogus Chinese philatelic items on eBay has spiraled out of control.

The years I spent as a Stamp Watch Committee member (for Chinese stamps and covers) gave me tremendous satisfaction because I felt I was doing something about a problem that adversely effects stamp collectors. The frustration of seeing so many forgeries on eBay and the fact that eBay images can now be easily copied and saved has led me to try a new approach.

Several years ago I stopped posting pictures to the‘Gallery of Forgeries’ because it was scaring people away from collecting Chinese stamps. So I limited the gallery to just three categories: Liberated Area stamps,Provisional Neutrality stamps, and the fake specimen sheets created and originally sold by eBay seller John Hill. In this last category I wanted to preserve images of the fake “specimen” overprints applied to the stamps before affixing them to the specimen sheets. At some point in the future the stamps are going to be removed from the sheets and sold individually, and I want people then to be able to trace them back to the fake specimen sheets. [As a side note eBay seller chariston is currently offering some of the fake specimen sheets.]

I have now created a new category in the ‘Gallery of Forgeries’ named ‘Recent Forgeries.’ This way I will not have to fill our magazine with images of forgeries.Shown here are a few forgeries recently seen on eBay.In our web site “Gallery of Forgeries” you will see many more listed using the user names of the eBay sellers (each followed by a number, starting with number 01).By clicking on an image you can often view a larger image.

I must again point out that I am not saying that the eBay seller is the forger, only that they are selling forgeries. In some cases this may be unintentional, but in most cases these sellers are offering so many that I can only conclude that it is intentional.
Prominent among the current sellers of forgeries are 416zr53 (Brooklyn, NY), 8hk8075 (公主岭, 吉林省,China), cover--king (China, China), jk201112 (Long Island City, NY), hhonlone (Hong Kong), pmworld777(长春, 吉林省, China), and subjecttt (JX, JJ, China).

It is interesting how they change their eBay username rather than opening a new account. They do this so they can keep their stars.hhonlone started out as zxd0902 in August 2012, changed to augusstamps in Decmber 2012, spink365 in July 2013, and hhonlone
in February 2014.

I do not generally put in print how I know a stamp is a forgery, lest I alert the maker of the need to correct a defect that betrays him. If a reader has a question about a particular item pictured here or shown on the web site please email me.

I recently received a question about a block of four of the imperforate printer’s waste of the $5 Die III Chung Hwa Book Co. Dr. SYS definitive of 1939 (Scott 361 variety; CSS 446Bb-e). It can be found with the vignette in numerous out-of-place positions, including omitted and inverted. Image ‘cover--king 10’ is a forgery of an imprint block of six with the inverted vignette. It seems strange that the forgers would attempt to duplicate an item of printer’s waste, but the genuine inverted and omitted vignette examples are very popular with collectors and demand a premium.

Seller anssss2020 (Beijing, China) is still offering stamps and souvenir sheets he has chemically altered.You can always find a bunch of his fakes for sale on eBay. Recently he has been offering fakes of the Formosa Official Postage Stamps of 1886.

In a recent printed auction catalog I noticed four imperforate between examples (Images 1-4) of the 5¢,10¢, 50¢, and $2 Hong Kong Postage Dues of 1940,printed by Commercial Press, Ltd. (Scott 69-79; CSS PD 85-95). Five values of this set have always been available as imperforate printer’s waste: the 5¢, 10¢,20¢, 50¢, and $2 (CSS PD 89a, 90a, 91a, 93a, and 95a).Interestingly these newly discovered (after 74 years)imperforate between specimens are four of the five values that exist as imperforate printer’s waste. You will not see these varieties listed in the next edition of the CSS Catalog; they are fakes.


作者: 假师爷    时间: 2015-4-16 08:07

You can find recent forgeries here:
http://www.chinastampsociety.org ... 08564#GallerySearch
作者: 麦国培    时间: 2015-4-16 08:36

品种丰富啊
作者: Michael    时间: 2015-4-16 10:32

支持打假,吉林省这卖家大量出假货,生意还不错,可怜的是还有很多买家在抢。抢完了还给好评。可悲啊!
作者: 老老肇    时间: 2015-4-16 11:06

This scared me a lot!
Stamp Collection field could be damaged by those guys!
Someone should report eBay immediately, otherwise after those foreigners purchased from here with low price, they will try to sell those forgeries back to collectors in China.
作者: 假师爷    时间: 2015-4-16 14:38

回复 5# 老老肇

Yes,it is scary!
作者: prior    时间: 2015-4-25 22:05

回复 2# 假师爷
Just sent email to you, tks
作者: zhang_jv    时间: 2015-9-8 09:31

ebay 上的新中国变体 几乎清一色的 溶剂票,或者做了曝光褪色处理,猴子假货也特别多,昨天我看到了一枚带有色标的猴子,但是居然色尺都没有从深到浅的变化,已经拍到9000多元了,不知道是不是自己在假托顶
作者: williamzhang    时间: 2016-2-17 20:52

回复 1# 假师爷
美国中华集邮会(CSS) 麦会长(H。James Maxwell)跟咱们的麦会一样很重视打假, 几乎每期CSS会刊他都会刊登一些他在ebay网上发现的伪为假品(图1和图2),并且还会把那些卖伪假品的卖家代号列张表,以此提醒大家要小心。今年1月会刊上列出32人在那名单上(见图3)。如果想知道更详细情况,以及最近有哪些伪假品在ebay 出售过, 大家可以上美国中华集邮会网站查看:

http://www.chinastampsociety.org ... 08564#GallerySearch

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作者: williamzhang    时间: 2017-5-17 20:00

本帖最后由 williamzhang 于 2017-5-17 23:36 编辑
品种丰富啊
麦国培 发表于 2015-4-16 08:36


上周我收到美国中华集邮会(CSS)5月份会刊, 这期会刊前面有三篇介绍有关满洲国封与票, 但会刊第二篇却是CSS 麦会长(H. James Maxwell) 为打假写的文章。  他经常把他在ebay上发现的伪假票以及这售票人代号刊登在会刊上, 以便提醒大家勿上当。  这点他同我们的麦会观点和立场是一致的,不怕得罪人, 很重视打假这项工作。
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作者: 麦国培    时间: 2017-5-17 22:36

很好
作者: markringo    时间: 2017-5-18 21:02

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这位Ophellas-dream在ebay上正拍的一个当壹圆方联,现在制假水平这么高了,好可怕,

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作者: sxy667788    时间: 2017-5-19 05:07

回复 12# markringo


   这是假的吗?
作者: markringo    时间: 2017-5-19 12:32

本帖最后由 markringo 于 2017-5-19 12:40 编辑

回复 13# sxy667788

这个问题问到点上了。我看到这个图也很惊讶,因为红印花的假票一般粗制滥造,一眼可看出,但这张明显不是。
不过请注意下面这几个事实:


1. 这个卖家为什么把这个方联随便放到eBay上拍卖而不是直接送到更加正规、客户购买力更强的大拍卖行?

2. 这个卖家来自SZ,China,换句话说,来自国内。基本排除不懂乱卖让人捡漏的可能。

3. 这个卖家还在卖其他的假票,在eBay上也只有20个星。

所以结论很简单:这是假票,而且做的很逼真。

当然也有一种可能是:图是真的,但是拍到后寄过来的是假票。如果是这种可能性,那么基本上无法进行有意义的讨论了,eBay是自由社区,你卖什么东西最好把你要卖的东西的图原本地上传,但是eBay无法阻止一个卖家上传虚假的图片。如果我把各大拍卖行卖过的真品大龙、蟠龙印样、小4分、慈寿封、一片红等的高清扫描件放到eBay上去拍卖,而且号称是自己卖,无底价,那么没有任何人能反驳,因为这些图本来就是真的。只是说,如果有这样的卖家,他真能通过这种方式赚一票然后跑路吗?这样做的意义何在?
作者: sxy667788    时间: 2017-5-19 13:39

回复 14# markringo


   分析得有道理,ebay有几个账号专卖假货,要小心为好,有买卖就有伤害
作者: williamzhang    时间: 2017-5-19 20:11

回复 14# markringo
分析的很好, 对学会如何鉴别真假清代邮品很有帮助。  谢谢。
作者: williamzhang    时间: 2017-5-23 04:41

这位Ophellas-dream在ebay上正拍的一个当壹圆方联,现在制假水平这么高了,好可怕,
markringo 发表于 2017-5-18 21:02


该四方连最后成交价才93美元, 看来大多数人还是比较小心的。
作者: sxy667788    时间: 2017-5-26 13:21


作者: williamzhang    时间: 2018-1-12 11:22

本帖最后由 williamzhang 于 2018-1-13 01:04 编辑

回复 18# sxy667788
(打假很重要)

今天收到以下美国中华集邮会(CSS)给会员一封电子邮件, 提醒会员有一台湾卖家正在eBay网上卖假票:

Fellow Collectors,
This new generation of forgeries coming out of Taiwan is more dangerous than anything we have ever seen before.
Look at the current offerings on eBay by seller majj-qwerty.
Everything currently offered is a forgery,

China Stamp Society Expertization committee

打开以下链接就可以看到这位台湾卖家在卖什么假货:
    https://www.ebay.com/sch/majj-qw ... ksid=p2047675.l2562
作者: chang003    时间: 2019-1-28 11:50

回复 19# williamzhang


eBay never failed to amuse me with so many "rare" classic Imperial China stamps, just to list a few below for your entertainment:
below from seller jianjianlove of nanchang:

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below from seller asdzxc201308 of  jiujiang:

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you want "rare" covers - no problem we have a large selection to meet your demand:
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anything special you are looking for? - no problem just drop us a line we guaranteed we will find it for you.......

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作者: williamzhang    时间: 2019-1-29 11:51

回复 20# chang003
打假很重要, 谢谢您发帖提醒大家!
作者: williamzhang    时间: 2019-1-30 08:28

回复 20# chang003

This seller on ebay is on the list of CSS under  "Stamps to Watch Out for."
   
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作者: chang003    时间: 2019-1-31 00:51

回复 22# williamzhang


    Thanks for the update. The other seller in my posting is also on the CSS list. eBay is not doing anything to stop those sellers.
作者: s410171    时间: 2019-3-5 17:23

謝謝分享!
作者: williamzhang    时间: 2019-4-3 07:21

本帖最后由 williamzhang 于 2019-4-3 10:36 编辑
謝謝分享!
s410171 发表于 2019-3-5 17:23

(北美消息----打假很重要)
美国中华集邮会(CSS) 麦会长 (J. James Maxwell)很重视打假, 几乎在每一期会刊上, 都会提醒大家有哪些不良份子在美国eBay网上卖伪假的封片和票。以下是他刊登在今年三月会刊上打假文章(Stamps to Watch Out For)。 文章最后是在eBay网上卖伪假人员的黑名单。  我把他的前面三段英文用软件意翻译一下,仅供大家参考。

Sometimes the honest dealers are as much of a problem as the dishonest ones.  I recently emailed oordraadje saying the stamp in image “oordraadje 01”  is a forgery, and explaining that the 7c was only issued at Hankow  and was never sold in Shanghai.  They answered “Thanks for the information.” and then went ahead and sold the stamp.

I emailed momenstamps explaining that the stamp in image  “momenstamps 01” is a forgery.  They replied “The buyer is aware.” They sold the forgery for $300.

Seller tttbid offers the stamp in image “tttbid 01” for $9688.  It is not real.  He offers the set in image “tttbid 04” for $9988. All of the stamps in the set are real.

有时诚实的经销商和不诚实的经销商一样有问题。 我最近通过电子邮件向卖家oordraadje发送电子邮件,称图片“oordraadje 01”中的邮票是伪造的,并解释说7c仅在汉口发行,并且从未在上海销售过。 卖家回答“谢谢你的信息。”然后继续卖掉了邮票。

我给卖家momenstamps发了电子邮件,解释说图片“momenstamps 01”中的邮票是伪造的。 他回答说“买家知道。”他以300美元的价格卖掉了伪造品。

卖家tttbid现有图片“tttbid 01”,现价$ 9688。 这不是真的。 他以$ 9988的价格提供图片“tttbid 04”。 图中的其它7枚邮票(除20圆)却都是真实的。

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